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07-30 00:05

Sokemis

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Trians Project Sweet as Can Be PIMLPs The Pet Association Starterholics Very Boring Grownups The PI DVSOC WPAG PonyIsland Pure Breeders The Azuyan Project WUA Breeding Mavens

I started breeding hybrids almost as soon as they were released on PI. I love them as much now as I did then :smile

I've noticed that there is still some confusion surrounding them, especially breeding - wether it be how to breed a hybrid or what happens when you breed a hybrid to other ponies. I've decided to right this tutorial in hopes of clearing up some of this confusion.

If you have any questions, please feel free to post or PM me and I'll try to answer them :smile

I would like to give a huge thank you to Silverheart for helping me figure out the breeding percentages :happy

Table of Contents
A1 Intro
A2 TOC

B1 What is a Hybrid?
B2 History of Hybrid Breeding

C1 Hybrid "Parent Breeds"
C2 Other Breedings for Hybrids

D1 Breeding Hybrids to Other Breeds
D2 Results of Breedings Involving Hybrids
D3 Explination of When Hybrids Breed True

E1 "PureHybrids" & PICHA
E2 Trians Project & Association

F Questions and Answers

Yet to come:
G & H Other? if needed....
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07-30 00:05

Sokemis

4973

United States - USR

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What is a Hybrid?
Hybrid breeding on PI is when you breed two ponies of different breeds together, and the resulting baby is a third different breed. This resulting breed is considered a "hybridable breed", meaning it can be obtained by hybrid breeding.

The hybridable breeds on PI are the MerPony (Mer), WingedUnicorn (WU), MerDragon (MerD), and WishingPony (WP).

For the purpose of this tutorial even purebred/starter Mers, WUs, MerDs, and Wishies are considered hybridable, even if they themselves weren't born as a hybrid.


History of Hybrid Breeding
The ability to hybrid breed was introduced to PI on 3/13/06, the same day the WU was released. At this time an already existing breed, the Mer, was also made into a hybridable breed. (Prior to this, Mers bred and were bred like any other breed on PI). Later two more hybridable breeds, the MerD and the WP, were released on 3/13/09.
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07-30 00:05

Sokemis

4974

United States - USR

Trians Project Sweet as Can Be Breeding Mavens Very Boring Grownups The PI DVSOC PIMLPs PonyIsland Pure Breeders Starterholics WPAG The Azuyan Project The Pet Association WUA

Hybrid Parent Breeds
Each hybridable breed as two "parent" breeds. These are the breeds that, when bred together, are capable of producing a hybrid baby. When breeding the parent breeds together, there is a 20% chance of their baby being a hybrid.

The 4 hybridable breeds on PI, and their parent breeds, are:
Merpony - Seapony x Earthie
WingedUnicorn - Pegasus x Unicorn
WishingPony - Unicorn x Fairy
MerDragon - Merpony x Dragon


Other Pairings for Hybrid Babies
There are a few other ways to breed some of the different hybrids. This is due to the way hybrids "breakdown" (explained in the next section 'Breeding Hybrids to Other Breeds') to their parent breeds when bred to a breed other than their own (ex. breeding a WU to a non WU).
Below are the different ways to breed each of the 4 hybridable breeds, including how likely the chance the cross is to result in said hybrid:

MerPony
MerD x Mer = 70%
Mer x Dragon = 40%
MerD x Dragon = 20%
Mer x Sea = 10%
Mer x Earth = 10%
MerD x anything other than MerD, Mer, or Dragon = 25% *
*Note, this one isn't a result of hybrid breeding, but is actually due to hybrid breakdown.

WingedUnicorn
WU x Uni = 10%
WU x Peg = 10%
Wishie x Peg = 10%
Wishie x WU = 5%

WishingPony
WU x Fairy = 10%
Wishie x Fairy = 10%
Wishie x Uni = 10%
Wishie x WU = 5%

MerDragon
MerD x Mer = 10%
MerD x Dragon = 10%
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07-30 00:05

Sokemis

4975

United States - USR

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Breeding Hybrids to Other Breeds
Hybrid ponies don't "breed true" in the same way the non-hybridable ("regular") ponies do. When you breed a normal pony to a breed other than its own, you have a 50% chance of the baby being that breed.

Hybrid ponies breed a little different however. They, even purebreds of the hybridable breeds, "breakdown" and breed as if they were one of their parent breeds (see above post for the parent breeds of each hybrid). This means that if you bred a WU (even a starter WU) to a seapony, the resulting baby could be a seapony, pegasus, or unicorn - but not a WU.

Exceptions to the rule:
There are two exceptions to this rule:
1) MerDragons - MerDragons breakdown and breed as either merponies or dragons. If a MerD breeds as a Mer, it does not breakdown a second time to a seapony or earthie.

2) Merpony x Dragon - Because a mers/dragons pairing is able to produce MerDs, mers do not break down to sea or earthie when bred to dragons.

The breeds in a hybrid's (or any pony's) lineage has not affect on what breed babies it can have, or how likelyhood of said pony having a baby of a particular breed.


Results of Breedings Involving Hybrids
Below are the possible outcomes when breeding hybrids with the other breeds (and the probibility of each outcome).

Merpony
Mer x Mer = Mer (100%)
Mer x Dragon = Mer (40%), Dragon (40%), MerD (20%)
Mer x Sea = Sea (70%), Earth (20%), Mer (10%)
Mer x Earth = Earth (70%), Sea (20%), Mer (10%)
Mer x MerD = Mer (70%), Dragon (20%), MerD (10%)
Mer x Wishie = Sea (25%), Earth (25%), Uni (25%), Fairy (25%)
Mer x WU = Uni (25%), Peg (25%), Sea (25%), Earth (25%)
Mer x other = other (50%), Sea (25%), Earth (25%)

WingedUnicorn
WU x WU = WU (100%)
WU x Peg = Peg (70%), Uni (20%), WU (10%)
WU x Uni = Uni (70%), Peg (20%), WU (10%)
WU x Fairy = Fairy (45%), Peg (25%), Uni (20%), Wishie (10%)
WU x Wishie = Uni (45%), Peg (22.5%), Fairy (22.5%), WU (5%), Wishie (5%)
WU x Mer = Sea (25%), Earth (25%), Uni (25%), Peg (25%)
WU x MerD = Uni (25%), Peg (25%), Mer (25%), Dragon (25%)
WU x other = other (50%), Peg (25%), Uni (25%)

WishingPony
Wishie x Wishie = Wishie (100%)
Wishie x Uni = Uni (70%), Fairy (20%), Wishie (10%)
Wishie x Fairy = Fairy (70%), Uni (20%), Wishie (10%)
Wishie x Peg = Peg (45%), Fairy (25%), Uni (20%), WU (10%)
Wishie x WU = Uni (45%), Fairy (22.5%), Peg (22.5%), Wishie (5%), WU (5%)
Wishie x Mer = Sea (25%), Earth (25%), Uni (25%), Fairy (25%)
Wishie x MerD = Uni (25%), Fairy (25%), Mer (25%), Dragon (25%)
Wishie x other = other (50%), Uni (25%), Fairy (25%)

MerDragon
MerD x MerD = MerD (100%)
MerD x Mer = Mer (70%), Dragon (20%), MerD (10%)
MerD x Dragon = Dragon (70%), Mer (20%), MerD (10%)
MerD x WU = Uni (25%), Peg (25%), Dragon (25%), Mer (25%)
MerD x Wishie = Mer (25%), Dragon (25%), Uni (25%), Fairy (25%)
MerD x other = other (50%), Mer (25%), Dragon (25%)


Explination of When Hybrids Breed True
You'll notice that in some cases a hybridable breed has a baby that is the same breed as itself or even a different hybridable breed. This is due to the way hybrids breakdown to their parent breeds.

- Say you breed a Wishie to a peg. There's a 50% chance the wishie will breed as a uni. If it does, there's a chance of getting a hybrid WU baby (it would be like breeding a uni to a peg)

- Now say you breed a WU to a Wishie. There's a 50% chance the WU will breed as a uni. There's also a seperate 50% the Wishies will breed as a fairy. If this happens, there's a chance of getting a hybrid Wishie baby (it would be as if you had bred a uni to a fairy).
There's also a 50% chance the WU will breed as a peg, and a seperate 50% chance the wishie will breed as a uni. If this happens, there's a chance of getting a hybrid WU baby (it would be as if you had bred a peg to a uni).

A hybridable breed, when bred to its own breed, will always have a baby of that breed.
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07-30 00:05

Sokemis

4976

United States - USR

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"PureHybrids" & PICHA
PonyIsland ClassicHybrid Association

Almost as soon as the ability to hybrid breed was released, there was debate about the issue of "pure hybrids". A pure hybrid is usually defined as a hybrid pony with a pure parent of one breed, and a pure parent of a different breed. So a pure hybrid WU would have a pure Uni parent and a pure Peg parent.

Many players however dislike this term - they feel that if a pony has more than one breed in its pedigree, it shouldn't have 'pure' in its name. PICHA started using the term ClassicHybrid instead for this special type of hybrid.
Quote PICHA:

The purpose of this club is to promote community and quality among breeders of these Classic Hybrids, and to champion the cause of Classic Hybrids as ponies of excellent caliber in their own right, leading by example. If you have and/or breed Classic Hybrids, you are welcome in this club

To learn more about the club, please visit their thread in the Clubs forum - Link -


Trians Project/Association
The Trians Project & Association is a breeding project focused on breeding a specialized type of hybrids:

Quote Trians Project Association:

Info:
The Trians Project is devoted to breeding quality Hybrid ponies and showing that a standard can indeed be set for Hybrid Ponies. It was created when Hybrids were first introduced to PI with the intention of showing that there can be a mixed breed pony that will hold it's "value" and a Hybrid definition that is something to be proud of.

Currently we are running 8 Projects:
WingedUnicorn
Alternate WingedUnicorn
MerPony
Alternate MerPony
WishingPony
Alternate WishingPony
MerDragon
Alternate MerDragon

If there are any other Hybrids added in future, we will add those to our repertoire as well :)

To learn more about the guidlines for the Trians Project, please visit their thread in the club forum - Link -
Acceptance into the association itself is by invitation only.
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07-30 00:05

Sokemis

4977

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Questions and Answers
Here I will try to answer your hybrid questions...


Quote Shadowstar:

So if I were to breed a Fairy and a Unicorn together and the baby was a Whishingpony then that baby would be considered a hybrid but if the baby came out uni or fairy they would simply be mixed? Right or wrong

Correct
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07-30 00:06

Sokemis

4978

United States - USR

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saving a spot in case I need it in the future...
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07-30 00:06

Sokemis

4979

United States - USR

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...and one more just because I can :wink

Feel free to post :smile
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08-06 02:21

Shadowstar

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United States - USR

"You know what the difference between you and me is?  I make this look gooooood." ---MIB I

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Ah ah! Very helpful thank you.

Edit:: So if I were to breed a Fairy and a Unicorn together and the baby was a Whishingpony then that baby would be considered a hybrid but if the baby came out uni or fairy they would simply be mixed? Right or wrong
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08-06 02:28

Sokemis

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United States - USR

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Quote Shadowstar:

Ah ah! Very helpful thank you.

Edit:: So if I were to breed a Fairy and a Unicorn together and the baby was a Whishingpony then that baby would be considered a hybrid but if the baby came out uni or fairy they would simply be mixed? Right or wrong



Correct :smile
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08-06 02:34

Shadowstar08

179

United States - USR

Woot! I got it, now to try for some real hybrids not mixies. *blush*
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